Talk:Actionable themes - Revision history

Book at 17:05, 9 February 2007

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-	~~== General remarks ==~~	+	The classification may be discussed on this page.
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-	~~This classification of the activities of the WSF in 21 "actionable themes" is sanctioned by the International Council of the World Social Forum.~~ The ~~list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is fairly comprehensive.~~	+
-		+
-	~~It is not a~~ classification of knowledge. Rather, it is the taxonomy of things that a contemporary Government should be concerned with. (The list shows a rough resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state.) However, no Government can be perfect. Neither can this kind of classification by subject be perfect.	+
-		+
-	~~The 21 themes can be arranged in~~	+
-		+
-	~~20! = 2 432 902 008 176 640 000~~	+
-		+
-	~~ways. Another order is (almost always) possible!~~	+
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-		+
-		+
-	~~== Alphabetical order? ==~~	+
-		+
-	~~Sharon said: the classification system choosen is o.k, but for subject classification am suggesting we use alphabetical order also.~~	+
-		+
-	~~== Changes ==~~	+
-		+
-	~~'''Slashes''' (/) have been substituted with commas and "and". - Reason: the slashes sometimes seem to indicate opposition, in other cases just conjunction, which~~ may be ~~confusing.~~	+
-		+
-		+
-	~~===2. National /International Institutions and Democracy===~~	+
-		+
-	~~Changed to '''Institutions and Democracy'''. - Reason: Obviously, the WSF deals with both national and international institutions, as well as with regional and global, or "world", institutions.~~	+
-		+
-		+
-	~~=== 4. Housing ===~~	+
-		+
-	~~Changed to '''Habitat and housing'''.~~	+
-		+
-	~~=== 15. Debt ===~~	+
-		+
-	Changed to '''Taxation, debt and public finance'''. - Reasons: a) from the start, taxation has been a major theme of the WSF. Compare, for instance, the role of ATTAC (Association to Tax financial Transactions to Aid Citizens) in the making of the WSF. b) In order to have public services (Water, Health, Education etc.), we need public finances. At the global level, a new financial architecture and world public finances are needed.	+
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-		+
-	~~=== 17. Free Trade ===~~	+
-		+
-	~~Changed to '''Trade and transportation'''. - Reason: a) Trade as such may well~~ on ~~the WSF's agenda; b) transportation probably needs to be mentioned somewhere among the actionable themes~~.	+

Book: /* "4. Housing" */

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"4. Housing"

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-	=== "4. Housing" ===	+	=== 4. Housing ===

	Changed to '''Habitat and housing'''.		Changed to '''Habitat and housing'''.

Book: /* 17. Free Trade */

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17. Free Trade

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-	== 17. Free Trade ==	+	=== 17. Free Trade ===

	Changed to '''Trade and transportation'''. - Reason: a) Trade as such may well on the WSF's agenda; b) transportation probably needs to be mentioned somewhere among the actionable themes.		Changed to '''Trade and transportation'''. - Reason: a) Trade as such may well on the WSF's agenda; b) transportation probably needs to be mentioned somewhere among the actionable themes.

Book: /* General remarks */

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General remarks

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	== General remarks ==		== General remarks ==

-	~~1. The list with~~ the 21 "actionable themes" of the ~~WSF shows a rough~~	+	This classification of the activities of the WSF in 21 "actionable themes" is sanctioned by the International Council of the World Social Forum. The list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is fairly comprehensive.
-	~~resemblance with the~~ list ~~of Ministries of~~ a ~~modern state~~. It is not a	+
-	classification of knowledge. Rather, it is the taxonomy of things that a	+	It is not a classification of knowledge. Rather, it is the taxonomy of things that a contemporary Government should be concerned with. (The list shows a rough resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state.) However, no Government can be perfect. Neither can this kind of classification by subject be perfect.
-	contemporary Government should be concerned with. ~~Note that~~ no Government	+
-	can ~~ever~~ be perfect. Neither can this kind of classification by subject be	+	The 21 themes can be arranged in
-	perfect.	+

-	2. ~~I am prepared to accept any order of the 21 actionable themes. Thus~~	+	20! = 2 432 902 008 176 640 000
-	~~it would be OK with me if Water came last, and Children first. Or, Labour~~	+
-	~~could be number 2. and Education number 1. A mathematically educated~~	+
-	~~friend pointed out to me, that 20 themes can be ordered in great many~~	+
-	~~ways. There are, to be exact:~~	+

-	20! ~~= 2 432 902 008 176 640 000 different possibilities...~~	+	ways. Another order is (almost always) possible!

-	~~That is far more than all people on earth. Another order is always~~
-	~~possible!~~

-	~~3. The two main advantages of the 21 actionable themes: a) This~~
-	~~classification -- or at least the version that we are working on -- is~~
-	~~sanctioned by the International Council of the World Social Forum; b) the~~
-	~~list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is~~
-	~~fairly comprehensive.~~
-	~~--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)~~

	== Alphabetical order? ==		== Alphabetical order? ==

Book at 16:39, 9 February 2007

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	--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)		--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)

-	== Alphabetical order ==	+	== Alphabetical order? ==

	Sharon said: the classification system choosen is o.k, but for subject classification am suggesting we use alphabetical order also.		Sharon said: the classification system choosen is o.k, but for subject classification am suggesting we use alphabetical order also.
		+
		+	== Changes ==
		+
		+	'''Slashes''' (/) have been substituted with commas and "and". - Reason: the slashes sometimes seem to indicate opposition, in other cases just conjunction, which may be confusing.
		+
		+
		+	===2. National /International Institutions and Democracy===
		+
		+	Changed to '''Institutions and Democracy'''. - Reason: Obviously, the WSF deals with both national and international institutions, as well as with regional and global, or "world", institutions.
		+
		+
		+	=== "4. Housing" ===
		+
		+	Changed to '''Habitat and housing'''.
		+
		+	=== 15. Debt ===
		+
		+	Changed to '''Taxation, debt and public finance'''. - Reasons: a) from the start, taxation has been a major theme of the WSF. Compare, for instance, the role of ATTAC (Association to Tax financial Transactions to Aid Citizens) in the making of the WSF. b) In order to have public services (Water, Health, Education etc.), we need public finances. At the global level, a new financial architecture and world public finances are needed.
		+
		+
		+	== 17. Free Trade ==
		+
		+	Changed to '''Trade and transportation'''. - Reason: a) Trade as such may well on the WSF's agenda; b) transportation probably needs to be mentioned somewhere among the actionable themes.

Book at 10:46, 7 February 2007

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		+	== General remarks ==
		+
	1. The list with the 21 "actionable themes" of the WSF shows a rough		1. The list with the 21 "actionable themes" of the WSF shows a rough
	resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state. It is not a		resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state. It is not a

Book: Alphabetical order

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Alphabetical order

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	fairly comprehensive.		fairly comprehensive.
	--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)		--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)
		+
		+	== Alphabetical order ==
		+
		+	Sharon said: the classification system choosen is o.k, but for subject classification am suggesting we use alphabetical order also.

Book at 20:33, 6 February 2007

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-	~~CLASSIFICATION BY SUBJECT~~
-
-	~~Several members of this list have supported (in their postings to this~~
-	~~list, or in private mails to me) the "21 actionable themes" as a~~
-	~~classification by subject to be used in our digital WSF Library~~
-	~~(www.wsflibrary.org). Some of you have also proposed amendments to the 21~~
-	~~themes, which we need to return to, and to discuss one by one in separate~~
-	~~threads of messages.~~
-
-	~~Once we have reaches sufficient consensus about the details of the~~
-	~~classification by subject, I think we should proceed to classifying the~~
-	~~materials, and to having the 21 themes as a navigation panel on top~~
-	~~of the front page of the site. Do you agree?~~
-
-	~~I would like to add a couple of points about this particular~~
-	~~classification by subject. As librarians, you may want to give these~~
-	~~points a thought, and to express your own thoughts, please:~~
-
	1. The list with the 21 "actionable themes" of the WSF shows a rough		1. The list with the 21 "actionable themes" of the WSF shows a rough
	resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state. It is not a		resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state. It is not a
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	list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is		list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is
	fairly comprehensive.		fairly comprehensive.
-		+	--[[User:Book\|Book]] 23:33, 6 February 2007 (EAT)
-		+
-	~~CLASSIFICATION BY OTHER CRITERIA~~	+
-		+
-	~~We will also need, of course, to introduce classification by other~~	+
-	~~criteria than the subject~~: ~~type~~, ~~and format, for instance. The fact~~	+
-	~~that we are dealing with events, events within events, and with *ongoing~~	+
-	~~activities* necessitates the use of criteria, which may not belong to the~~	+
-	~~traditional ones in libraries~~ (?)~~. - There are indeed many open questions~~	+
-	~~left to discuss.~~	+
-		+
-	~~Pomoja tunawesa,~~	+

Book at 20:31, 6 February 2007

2007-02-06T20:31:32Z

New page

CLASSIFICATION BY SUBJECT

Several members of this list have supported (in their postings to this
list, or in private mails to me) the "21 actionable themes" as a
classification by subject to be used in our digital WSF Library
(www.wsflibrary.org). Some of you have also proposed amendments to the 21
themes, which we need to return to, and to discuss one by one in separate
threads of messages.

Once we have reaches sufficient consensus about the details of the
classification by subject, I think we should proceed to classifying the
materials, and to having the 21 themes as a navigation panel on top
of the front page of the site. Do you agree?

I would like to add a couple of points about this particular
classification by subject. As librarians, you may want to give these
points a thought, and to express your own thoughts, please:

1. The list with the 21 "actionable themes" of the WSF shows a rough
resemblance with the list of Ministries of a modern state. It is not a
classification of knowledge. Rather, it is the taxonomy of things that a
contemporary Government should be concerned with. Note that no Government
can ever be perfect. Neither can this kind of classification by subject be
perfect.

2. I am prepared to accept any order of the 21 actionable themes. Thus
it would be OK with me if Water came last, and Children first. Or, Labour
could be number 2. and Education number 1. A mathematically educated
friend pointed out to me, that 20 themes can be ordered in great many
ways. There are, to be exact:

20! = 2 432 902 008 176 640 000 different possibilities...

That is far more than all people on earth. Another order is always
possible!

3. The two main advantages of the 21 actionable themes: a) This
classification -- or at least the version that we are working on -- is
sanctioned by the International Council of the World Social Forum; b) the
list is short enough to permit a rapid overview of the whole, yet it is
fairly comprehensive.

CLASSIFICATION BY OTHER CRITERIA

We will also need, of course, to introduce classification by other
criteria than the subject: type, and format, for instance. The fact
that we are dealing with events, events within events, and with *ongoing
activities* necessitates the use of criteria, which may not belong to the
traditional ones in libraries (?). - There are indeed many open questions
left to discuss.

Pomoja tunawesa,